Packers’ DE Arron Mosby secures roster spot with splash plays and special teams contributions

Paul Bretl | 8/29/2024

GREEN BAY, Wis. — On the initial 53-man roster, the Packers went heavy at defensive end, rostering six players. Realistically, there isn’t going to be enough snaps for all of them, but the play of Arron Mosby this summer forced the Packers’ hand, and made him someone they couldn’t risk losing.

A practice squad player for the Packers in 2023, Mosby made a big jump in his second season with the team. Brian Gutekunst said the Packers’ transition to a 4-3 scheme under Jeff Hafley with the defensive ends putting their hands in the dirt really allowed Mosby to take off and make those high impact plays.

For Mosby, the focus this offseason was on getting faster, now playing in an attack front, where the primary objective is to get off the ball as fast as possible and into the backfield.

“I would say really just cutting back on a little bit of weight, got my speed back,” said Mosby at his locker on Wednesday. “Really, this defense is all about speed, applying pressure on other offenses, so really just attacking guys. Got my speed back and just going forward, not trying to go backward. Just going forward.”

In three preseason games, Mosby–a former college linebacker and safety–would play 57 defensive snaps, totaling four pressures and a sack, along with making two tackles in the run game. He would, of course, cap off the preseason with a force fumble that was returned for a touchdown by Anthony Johnson and then coming away with an interception later in the game.

“You’ve got to give him a lot of credit,” said Gutekunst. “He’s put a lot of work into it and really not only as an edge rusher and his ability to rush the passer and do all the things that we’re asking him to do on the defensive line but in special teams as well.”

Along with the obvious production, Mosby’s versatility and taking on a variety of roles along the defensive front also helped distinguish him. As the old saying goes, the more you can do.

“Everything we asked him to do, challenge-wise,” said defensive line coach Jason Rebrovich, “there’s things that we’ve asked him–whether it’s to drop in scheme. Whether it’s something we’re doing to get in the backfield. I mean he’s done everything we’ve asked him to do.”

That special teams component that Gutekunst mentioned is a critical factor in Mosby making the team. Of course, the splash plays on defense matter and there will be a certain prerequisite of playing defensive end that Mosby will have to continue to meet, because of the depth at that position, there may not be many defensive snaps available this season. Four-man rotations at defensive end are fairly common.

However, where Mosby can make a greater impact is on special teams. While fellow defensive end Brenton Cox still has to prove he can be relied upon heavily in that phase of the game, Mosby appears ready to take on that role, playing 26 snaps in three preseason games–the sixth-most on the team–and across four different phases.

“Really, put my effort into special teams,” said Mosby. “That’d be the big thing. Going into this week, trying my best to make that impact on special teams and that’s the No. 1 thing how you make a team. And then, hopefully, my opportunity comes in the game and I can make an impact.”

Facing uncertainty throughout the summer as a fringe roster player, Mosby took control of the situation about as good as anyone could have, making splash plays on defense, and showing that if on the roster he will be able to contribute on special teams. While what many will remember was Mosby’s performance against Baltimore in the final game, his play in that game was the culmination of what had been an impressive all-around summer.

Like I said at the beginning, when it came to keeping or releasing Mosby, he made the decision an easy one for the Packers. There’s no way they could have let him go.

“He’s put a lot of work into it and really not only as an edge rusher and his ability to rush the passer and do all the things that we’re asking him to do on the defensive line but in special teams as well,” added Gutekunst.

“His ability to play multiple spots there and play it well and then he produced. He just did a really nice job producing. He kept getting better each week. It was showing up in practice; it showed up in the games. Excited for what he was able to accomplish this camp.”

Malik Heath’s reliability when it matters gives him edge in Packers’ WR competition

Paul Bretl | 8/29/2024

GREEN BAY, Wis. — There were several difficult decisions that the Packers had to make during roster cuts on Tuesday. As GM Brian Gutekunst said when speaking to the media on Wednesday, he thought that they had more than 53 players deserving of a roster spot.

But perhaps the toughest decision of the bunch came at wide receiver and who to keep on the back end of the depth chart–Malik Heath, Grant DuBose, or even both.

“That was a great competition throughout the entire camp with those guys, they all had their moments,” said Gutekunst. “And at some point you’re debating a lot of things. Do you keep six? Do you keep seven? And how does it look—offense, defense, special teams? All those things go into it.”

Throughout what can be a long training camp process, DuBose and Heath each seemed to peak at different times. DuBose would have a really strong start to the training camp practices, becoming a favorite target of both Sean Clifford and Michael Pratt’s, and caught 5-of-6 passes in the preseason opener for 66 yards. However, in the final two games, he had three targets and no receptions.

Heath, meanwhile, dealt with some drops early on in camp and by his own admission at his locker on Wednesday, didn’t have as strong of a camp this summer as he did in 2023. He did, however, remain a steady target, catching 9-of-15 passes over the three preseason games for 83 yards and a score.

Heath would also finish out the summer strong with four receptions in the preseason finale, including a touchdown, he put together some really nice routes in the joint practice against Baltimore against the starting defense, and in the Denver game, while the quarterbacks were unable to connect with Heath, he beat his defender twice on deep balls.

“Me just, you know, controlling what I can control,” said Heath about his play at the end of camp. “Doing my job, that’s all I can do. That’s the only thing that flipped. I just honed in on controlling what I can control. Making the play when it’s called. Getting open when my name being called on. It coming down to plays and that’s all you can control.”

As LaFleur mentioned last week, when it comes to determining these roster spots, everything is under a microscope. While the performance in games and the production carries weight, it’s not always the be-all-end-all either.

It’s also being able to contribute on special teams as a back end roster player–an area where Heath and his experience had the advantage. It’s about being able to block in the run game, which both Heath and DuBose have proven to be very good at it.

Beyond the production, it’s the process component for the players that we often hear LaFleur refer to. For a receiver, that includes the crispness of the routes, the releases at the line of scrimmage, the ability to create space, and the ability to win. Basically everything that goes into the end result of coming down with the catch–and that is where Heath distinguished himself from DuBose.

“Malik’s got a very unique ability to make plays when it matters,” said Gutekunst. “When the ball’s in the air, it’s kind of his. He has a great ability to go attack the football, make tough catches. He’s been a playmaker from college to the moment he got there. I think he’s just a very reliable player when it matters.”

The good and the bad about having to make these types of decisions is that it means there is a lot of talent at a position group. The downside is the difficult decisions it can create and knowing that a good player might end up elsewhere, as DuBose did, being claimed off waivers by Miami.

“I’m super fired up for Grant. Obviously, it was a blessing and a curse to have so many tough decisions,” said LaFleur.

“I know a year ago at this time he wasn’t happy he was on the p-squad. But a lot of times you’re handed circumstances that you’re not always happy with, and it’s how you respond to them, and I thought especially as the year went along, his just attention to detail, his work ethic, everything really, he was busting his butt in practice and I think he saw the benefits of that.”

It’s often time in a player’s second season that we see the biggest developmental leap from them. They have a full year of experience in the NFL–adjusting to the speed and what it takes day-to-day to be prepared for Sundays. There is the added comfortability of being in the same system for a second year, and they’ve had a full offseason to work on their craft rather than preparing for the pre-draft process.

In what was arguably the most competitive positional battle on the roster this summer, Heath rose to the occasion and emerged as the winner of it. Which for the Packers, is a good sign that Heath is ready to make that Year 2 jump.

“Like I said, like I told them, Grant, he gave me a run for my money, for sure,” said Heath. “He balled out in training camp and like I said, I’m happy for him. He gave me a run for my money though. It was competitive the whole camp.”

Patience is not a luxury the Packers can afford at kicker

Paul Bretl | 8/28/2024

GREEN BAY, Wis. — How will things work out for the Packers at the kicker position this season? Well, that remains to be seen. But for a team where the opportunity to win is right now, GM Brian Gutekunst is leaving no stone unturned.

Throughout the offseason and up until today, that included bringing in Jack Podlesny back in January and then Greg Joseph during free agency. When Podlesny struggled, he was released and James Turner took his place.

After Turner, Alex Hale was brought in to be the third kicker. Then during roster cutdowns, Anders Carlson–a 2023 draft pick–was released, and once the team was awarded Brayden Narveson off waivers the following day, so was Joseph.

“When we went into this year, we rotated some kickers through here,” said Gutekunst on Wednesday. “I think we were the only team to have three for most of the training camp. We were looking a lot. We were monitoring the league.”

Narveson went undrafted this past April out of NC State. In the preseason, he was 6-for-7 on field goal attempts, which included making a 59-yarder and a game-winner, along with going 2-for-2 on extra points.

An experienced player coming out of college having kicked across five seasons, Narveson would miss only one of his 197 extra point attempts. On field goals, he made 71 of his 91 kicks (78%), including 26-of-32 from 40-49 yards and going 4-of-12 from 50-plus yards.

“Brayden was a kid that we liked coming out and then he had an excellent preseason there in Tennessee,” Gutekunst said. “As it unfolded and he was let go, we thought it was an opportunity to get a really good young kicker and give them a shot at it.”

By comparison, the Packers believe Narveson gives them a better chance than Joseph and Carlson, given what they saw from him, or they wouldn’t have put in the waiver claim. However, that doesn’t guarantee that this is the move at kicker that will end all moves for the Packers. The Packers are still living in a world of uncertainty at this position.

“I don’t know if you ever know for sure,” said Gutekunst about bringing in a new kicker. “Certainly we scout that and certainly he had a great preseason where he hit a 59-yarder and then a game-winner at the end to handle that kind of pressure. You’re constantly monitoring that stuff but until you get him in Lambeau Field and everything that that brings, not sure you ever know.”

Roughly this time a year ago, when Carlson was just embarking on his rookie season, we heard Gutekunst mention on a few occasions the importance of being patient with young kickers, fully knowing that there will be ups and downs, and time to develop is a necessity.

That thought process can work when entering a season with so many unknowns and relatively low expectations. On the flip side, for a team with Super Bowl aspirations, the opportunity to provide a young kicker with time to figure things out is not a luxury the Packers have.

By Gutekunst’s own admission, he probably isn’t as patient with specialists as he needs to be to truly give that player a long enough runway to figure things out while in Green Bay. But the situation a team finds itself in can do some of the dictating when it comes to how to handle this often steep learning curve.

I’m probably not as patient with specialists as I should be, I’m really not,” said Gutekunst. “So I probably need to be a little bit more patient. We had JK Scott in here who’s turned into a very good punter. But at the same time, I’m very confident in this team and what we can accomplish so I want to make sure we give this team every opportunity to win. So there’s going to be a standard that we’re going to try to reach.”

As we all know, and as the Packers have experienced in the playoffs, the margin for error in the NFL when it comes to wins and losses is extremely thin. As Matt LaFleur put it on Wednesday, “I’m well aware of this.”

Since the year 2000, 6,176 games have been played in the NFL and 36 percent of those contests have been decided by three points or fewer. The most common margin of victory in that span is three points. Or in short, the Packers have to get the kicker position right.

Obviously the hope is that Narveson can provide the needed stability and reliable presence that the Packers have been searching for since Mason Crosby left. However, if he’s not, then there’s likely to be a new kicker for the Packers.

“I mean, guys have got to produce,” Gutekunst said. “If they don’t produce, it’s going to be a short leash. And so for me it’s really no different than it has been. We’re going to always, we’re working all year to see if there’s opportunities to make us better and if there is, and we can, we’re going ot try to do that.

“We’re really excited to get Brayden in here and see what he can do. And he’s certainly got a lot of talent and we’re excited about that, but at the end of the day, like all these guys who made this team, they’ve got to produce.”

LaFleur mentioned that he’s been on teams before where they’ve cycled through kickers during the season, and as one can imagine, it’s not a fun spot to be in. This situation, however, brining in Narveson a little over a week before the first game is uncharted territory.

The first time Narveson kicks for the Packers will be in a regular season game when it matters. The team will have a few practices to get a feel for him, but the general uncertainty could impact how LaFleur calls the game if faced with a fourth-down in opponent territory.

“Absolutely,” said LaFleur about the uncertainty at kicker impacting play-calling. “100 percent. Yeah. I think you’ve got to take into account all the circumstances. No different though like when you go out and there’s inclement weather. Sometimes that affects some of the decision making you make. We’ll see. “

Preseason progression from Malik Willis sparks Packers’ interest

Paul Bretl | 8/28/2024

GREEN BAY, Wis. — Brian Gutekunst’s decision to make the trade for now former Tennessee Titans’ quarterback Malik Willis was two-fold. On one hand, as Gutekunst put it, the Packers’ backup quarterback competition underwhelmed. On the other hand, he was impressed by the improvement Willis had made this summer.

“I think certainly there were some underwhelming performances at times,” said Gutekunst of the backup quarterback competition this summer. “But at the same time, Malik is a guy that certainly – he’s in his third-year and he really has shown a lot of progression, particularly this preseason. It was just an opportunity for us to add a guy that I think can not only make plays with his arm but with his legs, as well. I’m excited to get him, get him in the building and see where that goes.”

Willis is entering his third NFL season after being a third-round pick by Tennessee in 2022, and put together a strong preseason performance. Over those three games with the Titans, he completed 74.1 percent of his 27 throws at 7.6 yards per attempt with two touchdowns to one interception, along with rushing for 101 yards at 9.2 yards per carry.

That progress Willis made this summer, and not only in the final numbers he produced but in how he acclimated himself to the new offense and the process component of playing the quarterback position, is what really stood out to Gutekunst. That growth coupled with Willis’ big arm and ability to make plays with his legs are what sparked the Packers’ pursuit.

“I thought this year in particular,” said Gutekunst “and there was a coaching staff change as well, took over the new system, but the way he kind of–his patience, the way he was going through his progressions and able to play from the pocket. When to run, when not to run–those kind of things. I thought, again, it’s a short sample size in the preseason, but I thought he did a nice job. Just again, I think his ability to win with his arm and with his legs was something that attracted us to him.”

In addition to the strides Willis has made this summer, the eventual continuity that the Packers can provide will hopefully help him get to the next level as well. Although it’ll take some time for the continuity aspect of being in LaFleur’s offense to become a benefit for Willis, that element has been missing in his first three NFL seasons. Navigating three offenses in three seasons is by no means the only reason that Willis took some lumps during his first two years, but it didn’t help things either.

“I learned at a crazy rate,” said Willis. “This is my fourth offense going into my third year, so it’s what it is and just being able to adapt has really made me not proud but definitely leaning on that and continuing to just grind and work hard and continuing to let things play out how they’re supposed to.”

Now a part of the Packers, Willis will be tasked with learning as much of the offense as he can before the team’s Week 1 matchup in Brazil against the Philadelphia Eagles, which is now just 10 days away. It’s always a quick turnaround in the NFL. After being told on Monday he was being traded, Willis arrived in Green Bay Tuesday afternoon, was at the facility well into the night, and then on the practice field Wednesday.

“The process it’s more than anything getting in front of it and learning everything you can,” said Willis about learning a new offense. “Being really a sponge to anything the coaches have, anything the other guys in the room have, anything I can read on my own and watch film and seeing it done, just more than anything repetition. That’s what it is at this point.”

Willis is going to be the Packers’ backup quarterback this season. However, in such a short timeframe to acclimate himself to a new offense, can he be relied upon to fill that role in just a week and a half? That part of the equation is still to be determined.

“We will see,” said LaFleur. “I don’t know. We’ll see how it goes today. I know he’s a pretty smart guy. We’ve had an opportunity to meet with him. It’s not like you’re getting a rookie in here. He does have obviously a foundation. It’s just translating what he’s learned in the past and putting it into our terms, and then coaching him on the run.

“So there’s a lot of work to be done between now and when we have to play our game, but we’ll see where he is at that moment and make the best decision for our football team.

Helping Willis get acclimated to the Packers playbook, a fairly robust one under LaFleur, is his past experience of playing under then Titans’ offensive coordinator Todd Downing, who had spent time under Arthur Smith on the heels of him spending time with LaFleur when he was in Tennessee. As LaFleur put it on Wednesday, there is “a little bit” of crossover in terminology and some of what Willis will be asked to do in Green Bay.

If Willis isn’t quite ready to assume that role, the Packers do have Sean Clifford back on the practice squad and could choose to elevate him to the active roster for Week 1. Despite the very up and down performance throughout training camp and the preseason from Clifford, the Packers brought him back because of what he’s previously shown them he can do, and are willing to rely on him in that backup role early on if that’s what is needed.

“I think we have confidence in him,” said LaFleur of Clifford. “I told Sean, I think we’ve seen him play better than all the things we saw throughout the course of the offseason I would say, from training camp and in those preseason games. He’s just got to get back to really the core fundamentals that allow you to play the game fast. Reading with your feet is one of those. But we certainly still have a lot of confidence in Sean. It’s just the circumstance we’re in right now.”

In his first two seasons, Willis has appeared in seven games. He’s completed just 51 percent of his throws with no touchdowns and three interceptions. Some may view the move to Green Bay as a fresh start for him. However, Willis doesn’t see it that way. Of course, he’s appreciative of the opportunity, and thanked both the Titans and Packers’ organizations in the first question he answered at his locker.

But instead, Willis is more concerned with the day-to-day. He understands that in the NFL, your tape is your resume, and it’s his intention to change those perceptions. Accomplishing that isn’t done by worrying about what’s happened in the past or what could happen in the future, rather it’s about focusing on the process.

“You work hard every day to work on those things that may be deficiencies or just mistakes,” said Willis. “You learn from those bumps and bruises. You just wait for another opportunity. You just stick around until you get another opportunity, and I think that’s been the main thing – focus on the process and not maybe the results.”

Instant takeaways from each Packers’ position group following roster cuts

Paul Bretl | 8/27/2024

GREEN BAY, Wis. — The Packers initial 53-man roster is set. On Wednesday afternoon, we will hear from both Brian Gutekunst and Matt LaFleur about these decisions, but for now, here are my instant takeaways from the newly built 53-man roster.

The Packers move on from both Clifford and Pratt. Once the trade for Malik Willis took place, it’s not surprising that both Clifford and Pratt were released. According Packer Central’s Bill Huber, is that the Packers’ preference is to bring back Clifford over Pratt. Initially, this may come as a bit of a surprise.

As I discussed recently, the advantage Clifford had was his experience, resiliency, and game-like quality. However, those elements didn’t shine through consistently enough in the preseason, with Pratt being the more effective and efficient of the two.

However, taking a step back, it’s a move that does make sense. Willis is still going to be learning this new offense come Week 1. This means that in the first game and even further into the season, Clifford or Pratt will be elevated as the potential backup, and from an experience standpoint, Clifford has a deeper understanding of the offense.

Throughout the summer, whether it was LaFleur, Clements or Adam Stenavich being asked about Pratt, there is always this initial pause before they respond. The pause is not a negative or a knock on Pratt, who is doing all the right things and continuing to make plays on the practice field. The pause comes from him being a first year quarterback, who is learning a new offense, which LaFleur equates to drinking water out of a fire hose.

MarShawn Lloyd was not placed on IR. The good news at the running back position is that the Packers did not place Lloyd on injured reserve. He has missed the last two weeks with a hamstring injury, but not going on IR suggests he could be available for Week 1.

However, even if that’s the case, I would guess right now that Emanuel Wilson is the backup, given Lloyd is a rookie who has missed his share of time already. AJ Dillon was unfortunately placed on season-ending IR. He has been working through a stinger, and last we heard was that they were still gathering second opinions.

Tyler Davis also ends up on season-ending IR. Davis suffered a shoulder injury during the Packers’ second preseason game and did not practice this last week. That means the Packers will roster three tight ends and potentially could have Henry Pearson on the practice squad as someone to elevate on game days if needed. Ben Sims would come on strong at the end of training camp–making plays as both a blocker and in the passing game.

Malik Heath over Grant DuBose. DuBose would get off to a fast start in training camp, but Heath finished out the summer on a high note. However, more than just in that final preseason game, Heath has been playing some good, steady football throughout the summer. Against the Ravens starters in joint practice, he showed the ability to separate. The same thing was true in the preseason game against Denver. The production didn’t always show up, but from a process standpoint–route running, releases, creating space–I thought Heath was the more consistent of the two throughout the summer between him and DuBose.

Packers go heavy along the offensive line. I thought that this might be the case. Instead of having a true swing tackle, I wonder if it’s going to be a by-committee approach, with Andre Dillard handling left tackle duties if needed and Kadeem Telfort right tackle–or even moving Rasheed Walker to the right side if in a pinch.

Watching the rotations in practice, it became clear before the first preseason game that Dillard was ahead of Telfort and Travis Glover. Telfort. meanwhile, was the clear No. 2 option off the bench, seeing some time with the ones, but also being asked to play both tackle spots along with playing some guard during OTAs and minicamp. Glover didn’t start seeing steady snaps with the second offense until recently, but as we’ve seen in the past with Caleb Jones and Luke Tenuta, the Packers have no problem rostering developmental, high upside tackles. This will be a red-shirt-like year for Glover.

Packers go heavy along the defensive line. There’s a few reasons that I think the Packers went this route. For one, in Jeff Hafley’s attack front defense, the need for a heavy rotation becomes much greater. You can read more about that here. Secondly, I do wonder if trying to get Brenton Cox through waivers would have been a risky move. He’s a young, developmental player at a premier position who has shown he has the ability to get after the quarterback.

With that said, special teams is an area where Cox still has to improve if he’s going to see regular playing time. Mosby, however, is more equipped to come in and make an impact in that phase of the game. While both players flashed defensively this summer, seeing defensive snaps won’t come easy with the depth of this unit.

There’s only so many spots for special teams contributors. The Packers have had quite a few draft picks over the last two years, and in general, this is a very young team. That makes rostering veteran special teams-only players, like Kristian Welch, a lot more challenging. Especially for those back end roster players, being able to contribute in multiple ways is often a must.

Also a part of this decision-making process is whether or not the team believes a player can make it through waivers and back to the practice squad. Welch has a more clear path to contributing this season than Cox does, for example, but which player is more likely to get claimed? Welch was released by Baltimore last year, went unclaimed and was signed to Green Bay’s practice squad.

Now, having said that, this does set the stage for the Packers to have to rely heavily on rookies Ty’Ron Hopper and Edgerrin Cooper to help out on teams. Just like with offense and defense, there is a learning curve that can come with making the jump from college to the NFL in this phase of the game as well.

Kalen King gets left off the initial roster. Ultimately, if you’re going to go heavy at one position, or in the Packers’ case two positions on the offensive and defensive lines, you have to go light elsewhere and one of those decisions came at cornerback. Realistically, King would have been the fourth option at the nickel, behind Keisean Nixon, Javon Bullard, and Corey Ballentine. He also played just 38 special teams snaps during his final year at Penn State.

There was a lot to like about what King showed this summer, both from a physical play-style, along with making some splash plays, but his path to seeing the field was limited and as a seventh-round rookie, he likely makes it back to the practice squad. Whereas with Ballentine, he’s shown he can contribute on teams and be relied upon heavily on defense if needed.

Zayne Anderson in and Anthony Johnson out. I mentioned before cutdowns that it felt like one of Welch or Anderson was going to make the team to provide that special teams presence on the roster. However, I did not expect Johnson to be left off because of it. For what it’s worth, I thought Johnson had put together a solid summer, playing both strong and free safety.

My guess is that with three safeties ahead of him for playing time on defense and another rookie in Kitan Oladapo also on the roster, this decision came down to who was the better special teams player–although, if that’s the case, I’m still a bit surprised that took precedent with Johnson only in Year 2.

Greg Joseph is the Packers kicker–for now. The Packers had to keep one of their kickers on the roster. Hoping to land someone on the waiver wire without a backup plan is a highly risky move. So we will see if another move is made. On my roster prediction, I did have Carlson over Joseph, not only because he did make more kicks during camp, but I thought if the production was relatively equal, the Packers would choose his upside over knowing who Joseph is as a kicker at this point in his career.

I guess I should have reversed my thinking and thought of that as an advantage for Joseph because while Carlson may still have more upside, the Packers need stability, and right now, Joseph seems to provide more of that given his larger body of work.

Packers journey to 53: Analysis and observations

Paul Bretl | 8/27/2024

GREEN BAY, Wis. — By 3:00 PM CT on Tuesday afternoon, the Packers along with the rest of the NFL must have their initial 53-man rosters set. As part of this difficult decision-making process, Matt LaFleur and GM Brian Gutekunst are in constantly communicating.

“We’re in constant communication,” said LaFleur after the Ravens’ game. “I think we come to pretty much a consensus on a majority of the guys. But yeah, we’re in constant communication, just always talking about the roster and there’s gonna be some very tough decisions and sometimes, I’m like, man, I’m glad I don’t have to make the decision.”

Throughout the day, there will be reports of players being cut, and right here I’ll keeping you up to date with those roster moves, along with providing my analysis and observations on each decision. So be sure to bookmark or save this article and continue to check back in throughout the day.

Before beginning, one clarification: we will see reports of players being both released and waived. Players who are released are veterans with four years of accrued NFL experience and will immediately become free agents. Players who are waived have fewer than four years of accrued experience and will go on waivers. If that player goes unclaimed and clears waivers, they then become a free agent.

Packers trade seventh-round pick to Titans for QB Malik Willis

The backup quarterback competition underwhelmed so the Packers went outside the organization to hopefully find an answer. Willis is still a more developmental player, but with his rocket arm and mobility his ceiling is much higher than that of Sean Clifford or Michael Pratt. Willis will be the Packers’ backup and there is no longer room for both Clifford or Pratt. My guess is that the Packers choose Pratt over Clifford, but the other question in all of this is do they roster a third quarterback or try to get one of them back on the practice squad? For more on the addition of Willis, click here.

Packers release OT Caleb Jones per Matt Schneidman

Jones was on the Packers roster the last two seasons as a developmental tackle. However, during the final two weeks of practice in particular, it became clear based on rotations that he was fourth option at tackle among the backups–often playing with the third team offense behind Andre Dillard, Kadeem Telfort, and Travis Glover. Consistency in pass protection was always the big question for Jones.

Packers release WR Samori Toure per Adam Schefter

Ultimately, this receiver room just became too crowded for Toure. Best case scenario was that he was the eighth receiver on the team’s depth chart. He would get some work here and there with the second offense but was mostly with the threes this summer.

Packers release K Anders Carlson per Matt Schneidman

Carlson finished training camp and the preseason with a higher field goal hit rate than Greg Joseph, but any sort of momentum that he had established over the last week seemed to be negated by that missed 32 yard attempt at the end of the Baltimore game. It was an energy zapping moment, reminding everyone once again of the volatility that has come with Carlson. I would presume that an outside addition is going to be made, but we will see. Similarly to when Matt LaFleur was asked about the backup quarterback role after Saturday’s game, he expressed that the Packers would look into all options at kicker.

“We’ve got a really good sample size,” LaFleur said after the Baltimore game, “and then we’ll see what happens just around the league. Certainly, there were some really good moments. Both those guys went in there, hit a 54-yarder and a 55-yarder, and then there’s a poor moment there where we missed a chip shot. You know, again, lot of good. Some we know we can be better at, and we’ll wait and see.”

Packers release TE Joel Wilson per Matt Schneidman

Wilson had a nice stretch over a few practices and in the first preseason game where he saw some opportunities in the passing game with the second and third team offenses. When tight ends coach John Dunn was asked about Wilson’s performance, he mentioned his ability as a route runner standing out. However, base case scenario, Wilson was the fifth tight end on the depth chart.

Packers release OL Luke Tenuta per Bill Huber

Early on in training camp, Tenuta was mentioned among those competing for the swing tackle role, but he would spend most of training camp playing guard, with most of his snaps coming with the third team offense. If among the backups I would categorize Caleb Jones as the fourth tackle option, Tenuta was the fifth.

Packers release WR Jalen Wayne per Bill Huber

Jalen Wayne, the cousin of Reggie Wayne, caught one pass in the preseason eight yards and played eight special teams snaps. He spent his time with the third team offense.

Packers release TE Messiah Swinson per Bill Huber

Swinson was signed following April’s draft as an undrafted rookie out of Arizona State. There he would spend most of his time as a blocker, but has pass-catching upside, often asked to line up in the slot. Huber adds that Swinson “should” be back on the practice squad.

Packers release WR Julian Hicks per Bill Huber

At 6-2 – 201 pounds and having posted a RAS of 9.18, Hicks has measurables that teams will want to take a swing on developing. Huber adds that Hicks is a prime practice squad candidate for the Packers. Hicks had one catch in the preseason for 23 yards, but it was an impressive back-shoulder grab on a throw from Michael Pratt. He also played 13 special teams snaps.

Packers release WR Dimitri Stanley per Aaron Wilson

Stanely went undrafted in April out of Iowa State and signed with the Packers after a rookie camp tryout. He brings ample return experience to the NFL from his time in college. He lined up both from the slot and out wide in the preseason, catching three passes on four targets for 12 yards.

Packers release RB Nate McCrary per Ryan Wood.

McCrary was a very late addition to the Packers roster as they dealt with injuries at running back with both MarShawn Lloyd and AJ Dillon sidelined. In that short timeframe there were limited opportunities for McCrary, but credit to him for making the most of them, averaging 5.4 yards per rush in the preseason, showing good burst with the ball and being difficult to bring down, averaging 3.64 yards after contact. Wood adds that McCrary will be a practice squad candidate.

Packers release LB Chris Russell per Ryan Wood

Russell was another late addition to the Packers training camp roster, providing some needed depth at linebacker when they were without both Ty’Ron Hopper and Edgerrin Cooper. Russell played 31 defensive snaps in the final two games and seven on special teams. He made six total tackles and held pass-catchers to 10 yards on two receptions.

Packers release LB Kristian Welch per Bill Huber

There’s no doubt about it, this was an impressive training camp preseason and training camp performance from Welch, who made an impact on special teams–as we saw from him last season–and on defense as a middle linebacker, which included coming away with two interceptions. However, as I wrote in my roster prediction, with so many draft picks the last two seasons, it’s not easy finding roster space for veterans whose role comes solely on special teams. I would imagine the Packers will try to get him back on the practice squad. For what it’s worth, Welch was released by Baltimore last summer, went unclaimed, and then signed onto the Packers’ practice squad.

Packers release QBs Sean Clifford and Michael Pratt per Ian Rapoport

Once the Packers traded for Willis, it became clear that he was going to be the backup and presumably both Clifford and Pratt would be released. Now, one of them will be back on the practice squad.

Prior to this move for the Packers, the backup quarterback battle between Pratt and Clifford was one of the bigger positional competitions to take place in training camp. However, it also underwhelmed with there being little clarity gained over three preseason games and 19 training camp practices about which player should assume that role.

Through three preseason games, Pratt would complete 65.7 percent of his 35 pass attempts for 178 yards (5.08 yards per attempt) with one touchdown and one interception. His quarterback rating was 78.4. Clifford, meanwhile, would complete 51.1 percent of his 43 passes for 207 yards (4.81 yards per attempt) with one touchdown and one interception. His passer rating was 59.4.

While there were glimpses here and there from each quarterback, inconsistent play and poor decision-making at times were far too prevalent. We often heard Clifford praised for his resiliency and gamer-like play-style, but the moments where those qualities shined through were few and far between. Pratt, meanwhile, like any seventh-round rookie, is navigating a steep learning curve as he transitions to the NFL.

Following the Packers’ preseason finale against the Ravens, with neither Pratt or Clifford unable to instill much confidence, LaFleur hinted at the team exploring options outside of the organization.

“We’ll see,” said Matt LaFleur after the third preseason game when asked if the backup quarterback play was good enough. “Certainly, again, I think it’s similar to the kicking competition in terms of there were some really good moments and then there were some things we absolutely have to do better, and then we’ll evaluate everything that’s out there for us.”

Packers release DE Deslin Alexandre per Matt Schneidman

Alexandre did make a few standout plays as a pass rusher during OTAs but in a crowded defensive end room, making the initial roster wasn’t in play. He was also injured for the first part of training camp, making it more challenging to make a push towards the practice squad as well. Alexandre played in the final two preseason games. He recorded four total tackles and had no pressures.

Packers release DT James Ester per Ryan Wood

As an undrafted rookie, Ester joined a Packers’ position group this offseason that was already well-established. There were never any unknowns about who would make up the defensive tackle position group on the 53-man roster. But Ester showcased his potential, which has the Packers interested in bringing him back on the practice squad. In college at Northern Illinois, he was someone who impacted both the run and passing games. In three preseason games, he recorded three pressures and three total tackles in the run game across 69 total snaps.

Packers release OL Lecitus Smith per Ryan Wood

Ultimately, there just wasn’t room for Smith on the roster with Sean Rhyan or Jordan Morgan, and Jacob Monk as backup interior offensive line options. However, getting Smith back on the practice squad would feel like a win for the Packers. Smith spent the latter portion of training camp playing with the second team offense and has the versatility to play all three interior positions.

Packers release OL Royce Newman per Aaron Wilson

This was an expected move at this point. Newman was entering the final year of his deal, and the Packers already made him rework his contract early in the summer by taking a pay cut. Throughout camp, he provided a veteran presence, playing guard mostly with the second unit but spent some time with the ones when needed. However, over the last two years there has been too much inconsistent play. Sean Rhyan and Jacob Monk will now provide the interior depth.

Packers release RB Ellis Merriweather per Matt Schneidman

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Packers want to get Merriweather back on the practice squad as depth at the position–especially with AJ Dillon and MarShawn Lloyd dealing with injuries. He brings a physical running style to the backfield. On 16 carries against the Ravens, Merriweather averaged 4.6 yards per attempt.

Packers release OL Donovan Jennings per Matt Schneidman

Jennings was signed as an undrafted rookie and fits the mold of what the Packers look for in an offensive lineman. He’s a college tackle, who’s a good athlete, and will be asked to play guard in the NFL. An injury early on in training camp put Jennings behind and my guess is that there just wasn’t a long enough runway for him to fully show what he could do when it came to making the team. Schneidman adds that the Packers would like to bring Jennings back on the practice squad.

With uncertainty at backup QB, Packers make trade for Titans’ Malik Willis

Paul Bretl | 8/26/2024

GREEN BAY, Wis. — With uncertainty surrounding the backup quarterback role for the Packers, the team made a trade, acquiring Malik Willis from the Tennessee Titans in exchange for a 2025 seventh-round pick, according to Adam Schefter.

Willis was a third-round pick by the Titans in 2022 draft out of Liberty. He has appeared in 11 games in his career, making three starts. During that span of playing time, Willis has completed 53 percent of his 66 pass attempts–61 of which came in 2022–at 4.5 yards per attempt with no touchdowns and three interceptions. In the very small sample size that the 2023 season provided, Willis was 4-for-5 passing for 74 yards.

In his final season at Liberty in 2021, Willis completed 61.4 percent of his throws at an impressive 8.4 yards per attempt with 27 touchdowns to 12 interceptions. He also rushed for 1,220 yards and 13 scores.

Willis is still a developmental player, but will presumably now be the Packers’ backup quarterback for this season. For what it’s worth at this time, in Lance Zierlein’s scouting report of Willis prior to the 2022 draft, he noted his high upside with his “elite rushing talent” and “rocket-launching right arm.” But on the flip side, Zierlein mentioned “mechanical and operational inconsistencies” leading to inaccurate passes. For Zierlein’s full report, click here.

Unlike Michael Pratt and Sean Clifford, Willis put together a strong preseason performance. Over those three games with the Titans, he completed 74.1 percent of his 27 throws at 7.6 yards per attempt with two touchdowns to one interception, along with rush for 101 yards at 9.2 yards per carry.

Prior to this move for the Packers, the backup quarterback battle between Pratt and Clifford was one of the bigger positional competitions to take place in training camp. However, it also underwhelmed with there being little clarity gained over three preseason games and 19 training camp practices about which player should assume that role.

Through three preseason games, Pratt would complete 65.7 percent of his 35 pass attempts for 178 yards (5.08 yards per attempt) with one touchdown and one interception. His quarterback rating was 78.4. Clifford, meanwhile, would complete 51.1 percent of his 43 passes for 207 yards (4.81 yards per attempt) with one touchdown and one interception. His passer rating was 59.4.

While there were glimpses here and there from each quarterback, inconsistent play and poor decision-making at times were far too prevalent. We often heard Clifford praised for his resiliency and gamer-like play-style, but the moments where those qualities shined through were few and far between. Pratt, meanwhile, like any seventh-round rookie, is navigating a steep learning curve as he transitions to the NFL.

Following the Packers’ preseason finale against the Ravens, with neither Pratt or Clifford unable to still much confidence, LaFleur hinted at the team exploring options outside of the organization.

“We’ll see,” said Matt LaFleur after the third preseason game when asked if the backup quarterback play was good enough. “Certainly, again, I think it’s similar to the kicking competition in terms of there were some really good moments and then there were some things we absolutely have to do better, and then we’ll evaluate everything that’s out there for us.”

Instead of trying to decide between Clifford or Pratt, the Packers will take a swing on being able to unlock the high upside and potential that Willis possesses. Now the next question becomes, will the Packers roster a third quarterback or try to bring back Pratt or Clifford on the practice squad? Odds are, even with the practice squad, there is no longer room on this team for both.

I would guess that Pratt is the favorite of the two to stick around as the younger player who did outperform Clifford in the preseason. But in what capacity—on the 53-man or practice squad—remains to be seen.

Final Packers’ 53-man roster prediction before cutdowns take place

Paul Bretl | 8/25/2024

GREEN BAY, Wis. — Three preseason games and 19 training camp practices are complete for the Packers. We’ve gained all the information that we can from an evaluation standpoint, along with trying to gauge where things stand on the depth chart based on playing time and rotations.

With league-wide roster cuts needing to be complete by Tuesday, August 27th, here is my one and only Packers’ 53-man roster prediction after taking in training camp and the preseason games.

Quarterback (2): Jordan Love, Michael Pratt

The biggest advantage, in my opinion, that Sean Clifford had over Michael Pratt was his experience. Common qualities we’ve also often heard to describe Clifford are that he’s a gamer and resilient. However, as I detailed recently, we didn’t see those attributes routinely on display. The summer was filled with inconsistency from Clifford. Pratt would certainly take his lumps as well, but was the more efficient and effective quarterback throughout the preseason, while having to navigate the learning curve that comes with making the jump to the NFL.

Running back (3): Josh Jacobs, Emanuel Wilson, MarShawn Lloyd
Designated to return from IR: AJ Dillon

This is just a guess on my part, but as of Thursday, Matt LaFleur said they were still waiting on opinions before deciding what the next steps are for AJ Dillon who has been sidelined with a stinger. To me, I just don’t get the sense he’ll be ready for Week 1–but I could be wrong. With Lloyd, who is dealing with hamstring injury, again another guess, I’m assuming that with two weeks already missed, he won’t need another six weeks–two weeks before Week 1 plus four weeks on IR–to be ready to go.

Tight end (3): Luke Musgrave, Tucker Kraft, Ben Sims
Designated to return from IR: Tyler Davis

Putting Davis, who has been out with a shoulder injury, designated to return from IR is just speculation on may part. We do not know the extent of it or even what the specific injury is, but we’ve recently seen Jordan Morgan miss several weeks with a shoulder injury of his own. I know Davis had a rough performance against Denver, but I do believe he’s been a more steady blocker overall than Sims and we know how highly he is thought of on special teams. Davis can also fill in as the do-it-all H-back, a role held by Josiah Deguara, who saw 12-15 snaps per game late last season.

Wide receiver (6): Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs, Jayden Reed, Dontayvion Wicks, Bo Melton, Malik Heath

DuBose or Malik Heath? Flip a coin. Heath finished out the summer on a high note but more than just in that final preseason game, Heath has been playing some good football. Against the Ravens starters in joint practice, he showed the ability to separate. The same thing was true in the preseason game against Denver. The production didn’t always show up, but from a process standpoint–route running, releases, creating space–I thought Heath was the more consistent of the two throughout the summer between him and DuBose.

Offensive line (10): Rasheed Walker, Elgton Jenkins, Josh Myers, Sean Rhyan, Zach Tom, Jordan Morgan, Jacob Monk, Andre Dillard, Kadeem Telfort, Travis Glover

We know the first seven players are going to be on the team. Based on his play in the preseason and the offensive tackle rotations at practice, I feel confident in saying Dillard will be on the team as well. To me, this decision comes down to keeping Telfort or Glover, or in this instance, I kept both. Again, looking at how each player was used in practice and their overall performance, I have Telfort ahead of Glover on the depth chart. However, as we’ve seen the last two years with Caleb Jones and Luke Tenuta, the Packers have no issue rostering developmental tackles, so I went heavy here.

Defensive line (10): Kenny Clark, Devonte Wyatt, TJ Slaton, Karl Brooks, Colby Wooden, Rashan Gary, Preston Smith, Lukas Van Ness, JJ Enagbare, Brenton Cox

This is pretty cut and dry. Although I will mention that I did consider leaving Cox off of the roster in favor of putting Kristian Welch on at linebacker. The reason that I considered this was because as the fifth member of the rotation, I don’t see him seeing much playing time on defense. He also hasn’t seen a ton of special teams snaps. However, I ultimately kept him because the odds of Cox getting claimed are higher than Welch, who was released by the Ravens last season and went unsigned. Long-term, Welch may not be on the team, but with Preston Smith potentially in his last year or two with the Packers, you can see a path to Cox becoming a member of that rotation.

Linebacker (5): Quay Walker, Isaiah McDuffie, Eric Wilson, Ty’Ron Hopper, Edgerrin Cooper

Without having room for Welch, this position group is pretty straight forward. In not having Welch or Zayne Anderson, the Packers will need Hopper and Cooper to make a quick impact on special teams.

Cornerback (6): Jaire Alexander, Eric Stokes, Carrington Valentine, Keisean Nixon, Corey Ballentine, Kalen King

As I wrote recently, Ballentine brings a lot of value on the back end of the roster. He got some work out of the slot this summer, adding some versatility to his game. He’s been a key teams contributor and was quite steady last season when relied upon defensively, playing over 400 snaps. King, meanwhile, flashed playmaking abilities from the slot this summer and brings physicality to the position.

Safety (5): Xavier McKinney, Javon Bullard, Evan Williams, Anthony Johnson, Kitan Oladapo

Overall, I was quite impressed with Anthony Johnson this summer who has taken well to Jeff Hafley’s defense. His snaps may be limited defensively, but if called upon, I like the stability he can provide if needed. Oladapo’s primary role will be on special teams this season, where there will be a learning curve as he didn’t play a ton of teams snaps at Oregon State, but his combination of athleticism and physicality makes him someone who can be really good in this phase of the game.

Specialists (3): Anders Carlson, Daniel Whelan, Matt Orzech

Over the course of the summer, Carlson had the better hit rate on field goal attempts compared to Greg Joseph. I also think he has the advantage as the younger player who still has some upside that the Packers will want to tap into. Whereas with Joseph, who is in Year 5, we know who he is at this point as a kicker.

Sean Clifford or Michael Pratt? Both or neither? It’s decision time for Packers

Paul Bretl | 8/25/2024

GREEN BAY, Wis. — There will be a number of roster decisions that Packers’ GM Brian Gutekunst will have to make over the next roughly 60 hours. However, one of the more difficult decisions to be made lies at the quarterback position.

The good news for the Packers is that these decisions at quarterback don’t involve the staring position–they obviously have that part figured out. But as far as the backup role goes, I’m not sure of how much clarity there actually is, even after three preseason games and 19 training camp practices.

“We’ll see,” said Matt LaFleur after the preseason finale when asked if they are good enough at backup quarterback. “Certainly, again, I think it’s similar to the kicking competition in terms of there were some really good moments and then there were some things we absolutely have to do better, and then we’ll evaluate everything that’s out there for us.”

As has been the case throughout much of the summer, in the Packers’ preseason finale against Baltimore, there was some good and there was some bad from both quarterbacks.

Clifford and Pratt would rotate every two series in this game. Afterward, LaFleur said that they did this to provide a more fair comparison, with both quarterbacks playing with the same units and, for the most part, going up against the same players on defense.

For Clifford, he got off to a very slow start. He began the game just 1-for-7 passing on his first two series. Overall his numbers weren’t all that impressive, completing 6-of-14 passes at a very low 3.8 yards per pass attempt with one touchdown–although it was a very good touchdown pass squeezed into a tight window to Malik Heath.

“First and foremost,” said Clifford of the touchdown pass, “Malik ran a great route and they do that little double bracket, where they bracket certain players. So I just saw that they bracketed the through route that we had going and we were able to kind of sneak it behind the ear of that linebacker, and Malik obviously made a great catch as well. It was a great play, great protection as well.”

Pratt was the far more efficient of the two, completing 8-of-12 passes at 6.7 yards per attempt. His back-shoulder touchdown pass was a really well-placed ball and a big time throw with Bo Melton having very little separation from the defender. However, just when it looked like Pratt was going to win the day, he threw an interception right to a Ravens defender. A throw and a decision that just cannot happen.

“I thought they competed hard,” said LaFleur of the quarterback play. “I thought, for the most part, they did what we asked them to do. There’s a couple throws that you always want to have back. Certainly, the interception there, when (Michael) Pratt looked like he was a flyer on a punt going after the guy that picked off the ball. Was it (Trenton) Simpson I believe that picked that off? So that was a good lesson for him. Like, you don’t have to go like you are running down on kickoff and making a tackle.”

Through three preseason games, Pratt would complete 65.7 percent of his 35 pass attempts for 178 yards (5.08 yards per attempt) with one touchdown and one interception. His quarterback rating 78.4. Clifford, meanwhile, would complete 51.1 percent of his 43 passes for 207 yards (4.81 yards per attempt) with one touchdown and one interception. His passer rating was 59.4.

While the preseason games will certainly carry some weight in the decision-making process, Gutekunst and LaFleur are evaluating the entire body of work this summer from both quarterbacks. We’ve heard LaFleur previously discuss the importance of the quarterback getting the process right and if that is done consistently, the results will follow.

After Jordan Love would sign his extension, LaFleur referenced the 2022 preseason as a turning point in his development. However, if you go back and look at Love’s numbers that summer, they weren’t all that impressive, but the process component of it–getting in and out of the huddle, pre-snap adjustments, footwork, decision-making, going through his progressions, and more–were where LaFleur saw great strides. The point being, when discussing Pratt and Clifford, it’s not only about the final numbers.

With that said, what was supposed to be Clifford’s advantage in this competition–his experience–didn’t necessarily play out that way in live game action, with Pratt being the more efficient and effective of the two overall in preseason games.

“I think I had a pretty good camp and I just think the most important thing was to learn throughout,” said Pratt. “I think there were a lot of things I really learned throughout the process and I think I got a little bit better every single day, so that was what was really important to me.”

Two qualities used to describe Clifford is the gamer-like quality he possesses, as quarterbacks coach Tom Clements has described, and that he’s resilient, as we’ve heard LaFleur say. However, while there were flashes of those qualities, inconsistency defined Clifford’s summer.

Pratt, on the other hand, is navigating the learning curve that stokes with making the jump from college to the NFL—something LaFleur has equated to drinking water out of a fire hose, resulting in the up and down play that we’ve seen from him.

Gutekunst said on a few occasions this offseason that he wants to get back to “drafting and developing” quarterbacks. It’s for this reason that I don’t think an outside addition is in the cards for the Packers. As we’ve seen with starting quarterbacks, this is a process that takes more than one offseason, or in Clifford’s case, more than a year, particularly when you’re working with Day 3 draft picks.

It’s for this reason, that I do think keeping three quarterbacks is in play for the Packers, but then that decision impacts the makeup of the rest of the roster, forcing the Packers to go lighter at another position group. As a trickle-down effect, who then has to be released? Also a part of this decision-making equation is the Packers belief–whether it exists or not–that they can get one of these quarterbacks to the practice squad without being claimed by another team.

So with the evaluation process now complete, the decision now for Gutekunst becomes Clifford, Pratt, or both? If either has to take over for a long period of time, the Packers are going to be in trouble–as is the case for most teams at the backup quarterback position. So the question becomes, in the short term, which of the two gives you the best chance to win a game or two? And in the long-term, who has more upside–and then striking a balance, or a compromise, between the two if the answers are different.

“It’s not my decision to have,” said Clifford. “I think the world of Mike (Pratt). I think that he’s a great player. I think that I’m also a great player, so it’s not my decision to have here. I think they should keep all of us.”

More questions than answers still remain at kicker for Packers

Paul Bretl | 8/24/2024

GREEN BAY, Wis. — After three preseason games and 19 training camp practices, the Packers still have quite a bit of unknown at the kicker position.

Throughout training camp, the kicker competition has ebbed and flowed, with there being stretches where it felt like both Greg Joseph and Anders Carlson had the upper hand at various times.

After a relatively even start, with Joseph making 22 of his first 24 kicks and Carlson making 21, the first real shift in this battle occurred on August 1st. That day, Carlson would go just 4-for-7 while Joseph would make all seven of his attempts.

However, credit to Carlson–and as we saw from him last season–he would rebound. He remained relatively steady over the last few weeks, and then over the past seven days, he took control of the competition.

The lone field goal attempt that the Packers had against Denver was missed wide right by Joseph. On Tuesday, the Packers first practice after that preseason game, Carlson would make four of his five attempts, while Joseph would go just 2-for-5. Carlson would then further pad his lead during Thursday’s joint practice, making all five of his attempts while Joseph would go 3-for-4.

Through three quarters of the Packers’ preseason matchup with the Ravens, it felt like Carlson had a firm grasp on the job. At that point, Joseph, following a rough week, had rebounded with a perfect 2-for-2 on field goal attempts, which included making a 55-yarder, along with his lone extra point attempt.

“That’s exactly it right there,” said Joseph about having a short term memory as a kicker. “Trying to exemplify it. One thing goes wrong, oh well, I can’t control it. Thank God it’s not life or death. It’s a football going through an upright. If it doesn’t happen, onto the next one, because the next one’s the most important one because I can’t change the past.”

However, up to that point, Carlson had matched, making his only field goal attempt–a 54-yarder–and both extra points. But then just like that, with 7:26 left in the fourth quarter, another seed of doubt was sowed, as Carlson missed wide right from 32 yards–not even the length of an extra point attempt.

“I don’t watch,” said Joseph post-game about Carlson’s miss. “Obviously, you hear the crowd and the announcer, I get it, but I stuck true to myself and my values that I didn’t watch any of his kicks. Not to say that I’m not interested in his kicks but I’m worried about Greg Joseph because that’s all that I can control.”

Overall, Carlson has still put together the better performance, making 81.6 percent of his 76 camp attempts, while Joseph has made just 78.9 percent. But at a position where little confidence has been instilled by either player, Carlson’s miss was a sharp reminder of the uncertainty that the Packers still face at kicker.

Carlson’s training camp hit rate of 81.6 percent if compared to 2023 totals would have still ranked 22nd out of 30 eligible kickers last season. Joseph would have ranked 28th and these are their rates in practice. Similarly to basketball, an NBA player is likely making a much higher percentage of their three point attempts in practice versus in a game. So if we are in the neighborhood of this being the ceiling for each kicker this season, that’s probably not good enough for a team with Super Bowl aspirations.

Considering that percentage-wise things are relatively equal, I have to think that Carlson still has the advantage, given that he’s only in Year 2 and there is upside that the Packers will want to chase. Joseph, meanwhile, has five years of experience and has made 82.9 percent of his career kicks, which includes struggling during his visits to Lambeau Field when he was with Minnesota.

What we saw from Joseph in camp has largely been who he is as a kicker, whereas with Carlson, the hope would be that the potential the Packers believed he possesses when they drafted him can still be unlocked. With that said, while all we have to go off of is this number of field goals that each kicker made, when it comes to determining who will win this role, everything is being examined closely.

“Everything that they do,” said LaFleur on what other factors he’s looking for at kicker. “Everything’s under a microscope. Everything’s being evaluated. I think obviously you put a lot of stock into when you’re playing against somebody else, whether it’s a game or practice, and just I think everything gets heightened a little bit, just the anxieties and the pressure gets amped up a little bit more.”

With roster cutdowns now looming, there is also the possibility that the Packers Week 1 kicker isn’t on the roster yet. But even that comes with some risk as there aren’t anymore training camp practices for these players to compete. If a new kicker is brought in, either Carlson or Joseph–whoever is on the 53-man–will be released with the hope that an upgrade is being made. But that won’t ultimately be decided until live attempts are made in regular season games.

From the Packers’ perspective, do you go with the familiar uncertainty, or dive head first into the unknown? The margin for error in the NFL, particularly in the playoffs is incredibly thin.

“You know, that’s not even a question for me, to be honest with you,” said LaFleur when asked if the Packers’ kicker was on the roster. “We’ve got a really good sample size, and then we’ll see what happens just around the league. Certainly there were some really good moments. Both those guys went in there, hit a 54-yarder and a 55-yarder, and then there’s a poor moment there where we missed a chip shot. You know, again, lotta good. Some we know we can be better at, and we’ll wait and see.”